Friday, December 17, 2010

Did prophet Mohammad fight offensive wars? A Saudi Sheikh says Jihad means offensive war 'initially'.

We keep hearing from muslims that Mohammad, Prophet of Islam, never fought any war let alone an offensive war or that he fought only in self defense. This is pure deceit from muslims, of course, in conformity with Mohammad’s teaching that war is deceit. Veil is being removed on this concealment, about Prophet Mohammad being intolerant and instigator of armed strife, albeit slowly. There are some Muslims who perceived this and started out giving, occasionally, their own reasons like there were no treaties in those days or so that muslims can preach their religion in conquered places or it was pretty common practice to plunder caravans in those days which hardly amounts to defense.

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A Muslim scholar from Saudi Arabia, Dr. Salman al-'Awda (he was supporter of Osama Bin Laden in early nineties.), made some comments on the subject of jihad on Al-Jazeera TV. He observed that jihad in the present day world can only be accepted as defensive warfare[does this mean that offensive warfare was allowed in the past?]; to be more accurate only defensive jihad is valid in present day world. He explained that Prophet fought offensive wars because there were no international agreements in those days; and because of present day international treaties, offensive jihad is invalid and unnecessary.

First thing that should be noted is his observance that Prophet fought offensive wars.  But he got flak from other Saudi scholars for saying such un-Islamic things like 'Jihad is only defensive war in present day world'.

A certain Saudi Shaykh Abd-al-Rahman bin Nasir al-Barrak, in his fatwa, blasted Dr. Salman al-A'wda for his recent comments on al-Jazeera and cited a couple of verses from the Qur'an, notably the 'verse of the sword', and a saying of the Prophet to attack al-'Awda's statements, and asked:  "How can Dr. [al-‘Awda] claim that these texts are about defensive jihad?!" He also criticized Dr. al-'Awda for essentially subjugating the Islamic law of jihad under international agreements.

Some translated excerpts from his fatwa, issued in Arabic (one can access to Arabic version from here):
I was made aware of the false comments of Dr. Salman bin Fahd al-‘Awda, may God guide him, which he spoke on a satellite television station regarding jihad in Islam:
1. (He spoke of) what he termed “defensive jihad” and “offensive jihad.” He accepts defensive jihad but not offensive, which is the initial jihad (against) the infidels. His contradiction of the sayings of the Almighty, such as the following, is not a secret: 
“But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the polytheists wherever ye find them. And seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)” (Koran 9:5). 
He also contradicts the saying of the Prophet (PBUH): “I have been commanded to fight against the people until they testify that there is no god but God.” Also the saying of the Almighty: “Fight against those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by God and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued” (Koran 9:29). How can Dr. (al-‘Awda) claim that these texts are about defensive jihad?! It is known that this type of jihad is the one that the orientalist and other enemies of Islam have taken away from Islam in order to destroy it. This has caused some of the ignorant or apologists of Islam to restrict the aim of jihad in Islam to being purely defensive, for defense against the enemy does not offend anyone.
2. He alleged that the combat and wars during the life of the Prophet (PBUH) happened at a time when there were no international treaties, as he said: [quotes Dr. al-‘Awda]. The meaning of this is that there is no place for war in this age of international treaties and agreements, which he expressed by saying: [quotes Dr. al-‘Awda]. The true meaning of these words is that international treaties, which have been put into place by the infidels, including international law, which forbids aggression--or so they claim, and under their criteria jihad is considered aggression. This claim that Islam accepts what is decreed by these treaties and pacts is slander against Islam. This claim disables jihad in the path of God to establish the word of God, subjugating it under international law—or is this not their meaning?  For Islam makes jihad a requirement, and international agreements prohibit jihad for Muslims!
But how could he possibly say that many Muslims in present day world see jihad as defensive? I strongly feel that many muslims understand Jihad as offensive warfare and many Muslims also understand that Jihad need not be violence all the time.  If many of them are not opting for violence then it is for other reasons like lack of ability or unwillingness to risk their lives. And many more contribute to Jihad by making donations to Islamic organizations and, of course, donating money itself is Jihad.

Another important point that should be noted is sheikh’s observation that ‘offensive jihad’ is initial jihad against infidels; it is obvious [except for secular and blind non-Muslims] that verses 9:005 ans 9:029 are about offensive jihad i.e open commands for aggressive warfare against Non Muslims.

I am not sure if Sheikh by mentioning 'initial jihad' was referring to Prophet starting hostilities against idolaters of Mecca (as Prophet did) or some Islamic stratagem.

Well, once Muslims start offensive Jihad and if non-Muslims resist this with their own efforts then Jihad is no longer offensive but defensive. Those who have read Prophet’s biography will realize this and also this strategy appears in Koran it self. Prophet either participated in or planned and sent 84 military expeditions in just 9 years; one expedition per every 5 and 1/2 weeks.

One last question is, whether both the Saudi scholars are Islamophobes for saying Jihad means offensive war?


Anonymous said...

Being an x-muslim, I agree ...

There are sentiments of hatred towards other religions in Quran and Hadith Traditions.

Currently the Muslims are not in a position of waging an offensive jihad. That is why they are singing the mantra of defensive jihad.

What is needed is to open the eyes of people (like me) by making them realize that there are disguisting things in Quran like Wife beating, Wars, Hell etc.

Anonymous said...

Today is documentation poorly, isn't it?

Anonymous said...

What light of day isn't today?

Anonymous said...

What day isn't today?

abu b. said...

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no i think this scoundrel writing these things himself to jerk off and feel satisfied.

kid said...

@ Abu B

You have every right to assume those things. But your abusive words are unwarranted.

I normally delete those comments but here since you directed them towards me probably, I will keep them.

Actually, I am unable to configure my comment box and widget properly. This is creating lot of problems.

Anonymous said...

As a Muslim, I accept the views of this blog that Muslims actually practice both defensive and offensive jihad. But what confused me most Muslims still insisting that Muslims only attack in self-defense, and then keep blaming non-Muslims as the aggressors despite what the Quran had clearly said.

Anonymous said...

The Quran later revelations are also contradicting the earlier revelations regarding dealing with non-Muslims. It's confusing.

Anonymous said...

The later revelations in the Quran who contradicting earlyer ones overrule them. So the Meccan suras are overruled by the Meddina suras when they disagree. That is sharia. So the Quran is not confusing Wien you know wiitch sura came last. Sura 9, the sword is the last one and it overrule the rest.

Anonymous said...

Verse of Sword is very specific... it starts with 'and'... even a child can see it relates to specific time when some non muslims broke treaty with muslims. I think jihad is purely defensive... to be frank none of the Jihad during time of Prophet Muhammad PBUH was offensive... it was in defense of Muslim. Muslim were in minority at that in arabia.... the wars taken place was just to protect muslim... and due to international boundries the only form of Jihad that exist today is defensive.. only non muslim or extremist can deny this fact.

Anonymous said...

Muhammad PBUH never beaten his wife. Quran says men has authority over his wife and there is no harm in it that wife should listen to his husband otherwise they can divorse... definetly there can only be one leader in house

Anonymous said...

Muhammad PBUH never beaten his wife. Quran says men has authority over his wife and there is no harm in it that wife should listen to his husband otherwise they can divorse... definetly there can only be one leader in house

Anonymous said...

Jihad is purely defensive. All verses of Quran regarding Jihad are specific while verse of tolerance like no compulsion in relgion is general.. jihad is started when any country attack muslim or plot against them or muslim minority in any country are severly oppressed... as far as I know this is as per international standard

Anonymous said...

Quran was arranged by Prophet Muhammad PBUH himself. If earlier revelation replace old one he would have arraned Quran in order of revelation. Actually all verses of jihad including verse of Sword is very specific... I have read it and it is referring to non compliance by other party and starts "and". Definetly general verse like verse of tolerance should be followed unless specific circumstances arise... there is no contradiction. If u ever read a law, law first specify general rule and then there are exception.